Oh, Facebook ads. Not something that I’m well-versed in. And that is why I have brought my friend Danielle on the podcast today. Danielle is a Facebook and Instagram ad strategist and host of the Clients and Conversions podcast. She helps to service providers, amplify their audience, get calls booked, and more clients landed with honing in on the right strategy that works for their business. And I’m super excited to learn all the things about Facebook ads today. 

So welcome Danielle!  know this varies from person to person, client to client, but I personally have heard some people who say you can do Facebook ads for like $50 a month or then there’s some people who are like, you know, really if you want to be effective you need to spend like $5,000 a month.

So what would you say is a good starting like monthly budget for Facebook ads?

Danielle: Oh my gosh, those are crazy. I love that. So those are the extremes for a lot of people, especially for those who I would say are either new in it or they might have like heard different stories or horror stories even more so. And let me kind of go between the two sides and kind of meet in the middle from the extremes. So the first side when people usually say like, Oh, you only need to spend $50 a month. The thing is when it comes to Facebook ads, they’re with any singular ad you do. The normal rate, like your minimum starting is around $5 a day for your ad. Just because it, it’s kind of like Facebook secret, like hidden, I guess number that they want you to start out with. So that way you’re still getting results. But anything under $5 a day for some reason Facebook sees it as not as effective, so they’re not gonna push it out as much.

Danielle: You’re not going to get other bit of reach and you’re not going to get as good a results. So for those who are saying $50 a month, that they’re probably talking about boosted posts, which are probably one of my mortal enemies and I don’t like them. Um, but I would say usually for most people, no matter what budget you’re at, you should be always starting your ad around $5 a day. Or if you want to obviously $10 a day and go up from there. I think what happens is when people say like you need to have a thousand or $5,000 per month for ads, usually that’s coming from a space of either you’re probably going through a launch, which even that you don’t need to have that much for you. You don’t need 5,000 for a launch. Uh, but you also just need to know what your budget is.

Danielle: And also, I think the, the way that you have to kind of understand ads is that obviously the more money you put in, the more results you’re probably going to get. That’s like for anything in life. Yes, yes. But obviously not everyone is gonna want to put their money in on the first day, which I don’t even recommend them to. So that’s kind of why I’d love to say for a lot of people who are just starting with ads or even if you’re currently in them and just haven’t them work fully yet is always start your ad at $5 a day and then you as you see which what works, what doesn’t work, you can kind of like build it up from there. But I think like the minimum is $5 a day. So really I guess the minimum for Facebook ads to be doing, if my math is correct, it’s either 150 per month or 300 per month.

Danielle: I can never remember the number, but it’s like it’s one of those two numbers and you guys can, you guys can look on your calculator and find it out. But usually for that, that’s the minimum and I want to say two for those who are listening as well, you don’t have to have the Facebook on forever. Let’s say. You’re just like, I want to try this out for the next two weeks and see how it works. You can do that and turn it off. I think what happens is people think like the $5 a day is what you have to spend until you die. And it’s really just about for you testing. Like obviously the longer you have your Facebook ads are run, the better results would get cause Facebook things are going to be on the platform longer and want to reward you for that, but you don’t always have to have it on for longer. So that’s kind of like the question summed up is around that price point and depends on, you know, um, what your goal is for it as well.

Jess: Right. That totally, that totally makes sense. Now you said paying attention to what works, what’s working in your ads.

So, what can you tell us about like what should we be paying attention to inside our Facebook ads? What, how do we know if the ad is working?

Danielle: Yeah, so I would say the first thing is, it depends on what type of ad you’re doing. There is, there’s kind of like the two, two or three biggies that a lot of I do for my clients or that I teach. One of the biggest ones is conversion ads where you’re basically giving something for free or even like sometimes paid in exchange for dollars or for their name or contact information. That’s why you hear a lot about like people who create guides and that’s a conversion ad because you have that free guide for them and they give it to you in exchange for their name and email. So they convert to be a lead, they convert to an email subscriber. So that’s one of the biggest ones that I have for my clients, especially for service providers. That’s such a good one to do because you’re getting people onto your list.

Danielle: You’re also getting people warmed up to you. Um, there’s also ones like traffic ads where you’re just bringing more traffic to a specific webpage, which is good ish depending on what you’re looking for. And then the last one’s usually like videos or like video views. So you’re just building up an audience who’ve watched your video. So those are kind of like the top three. So obviously the, the numbers might vary for what you’re looking out for at first. For example, for a conversion ad, your biggest numbers you’re going to want to look out for is like cost per lead or cost per action taken. So like cost per lead for conversion ad usually is around depending on which niche you’re in, like one to $4 per lead. For people who are in like more of a niche audience, let’s say like therapists, I’m trying to think of who other, like anyone who’s in a smaller niche, it might be a little bit more expensive because you’re having to kind of work with a smaller audience, which isn’t a bad thing.

Danielle: It means you’re getting more quality people but just might be like one to five or $6 instead, you know? So that’s the kind of like one of the big numbers that I have for that. And then for numbers that are like through all three of those is your click through rate. And what this means is it’s kind of like a little percentage. You’ll see if you scroll, when you’re looking at your ads that’s helping you see a percentage of how many people actually on like saw your ad and clicked on it. And what that allows you to know is one if your ad like the actual graphic you created worked and also if your copy creative worked because people don’t click on ads unless they’re appealing to them. So that’s kind of an easy way to see like how much percentage am I getting right now? Is this a good percentage? Is it a bad one? If it’s under usually but under like 1% or like 0.5% you might eat or change the copy and graphic. But I would say cost per result or cost per action like clicks, whatnot is a huge one. I’d say click through eight is their second biggest one. So you can kind of see like what is working and when it comes to your copy and graphic. And the third one’s usually going to be like link clicks, which is around again how many people clicked on your ad.

Jess: Yeah. Awesome. That’s really great information. Cause I know the few times I have run Facebook ads for like just to like test things out, not like as part of a launch or anything. Then I go look at the data cause I love looking at the data on the backend and I’m like cool. Like I don’t know what I like. I know what it means. You know I’m like yeah get with that. Like what that means. But I’m like I don’t know if this is good or bad or like should I change something? Cause I hear people like you talking about like just tweak it and I’m like well tweak what? What do I tweak? I don’t know.

Danielle: I know that’s a big thing for a lot of people and it’s, it’s kind of why whenever I’m talking about ads, especially on when it’s more of that kind of like techie nitty gritty, I always find it comical when I’m talking about it like video or audio versus having like a screen in front of you to show you kind of like probably for you as well like talking about like the layout of a website and then it’s only through video or like audio you’re like okay let’s, let’s try and talk about this. But I think for a lot of people that’s something you just have to look out for are those three main numbers and it’ll say on the screen like it’ll actually say click through rate and have the percentage underneath it and like it’ll, it’ll say it right underneath there for you.

Jess: Awesome. That’s, that’s really helpful. Now you were talking about your copy in your ad and I know Facebook kind of has some rules and regulations on like wording especially I’ve heard within like the health and fitness industry and like what you can and cannot say and like body image and stuff like that.

Can you talk a little bit about how we can still run ads about health and wellness without getting in trouble?

Danielle: Yeah. So what I find for a lot of clients that I have, it depends on what type of, you know niche you’re in. For a lot of people who are in like the and fitness, Facebook has been cracking down on a lot of different things. I find for a lot of my clients, either they’re like health and fitness or they’re talking about money. It was like the two big things that like Facebook is really trying to make sure are um, really used right. For people who are listening or sorry, who are watching it basically. So what I find for a lot of health and fitness coaches or dietitians or whoever is really the copy that we’ll be creating is around your experience and how you can show them what your experience led you to do. For example, I, you’re the ad they’d probably get disapproved.

Danielle: Like Facebook would say no would be if you said, are you struggled, are you tired? Are you overwhelmed in life? This is what would be good for you. Because Facebook sees that kind of copy and things. One, it’s putting the person down like they want Facebook to feel like Facebook obviously wants the platform to feel like a happy place. They want to come back on and on. So if they think that the copy is too negative or making them feel bad, they think, Oh that user might not want to come back on the platform because it made them feel bad. So they want to make sure that when you’re talking about certain things that it’s not going to make the user feel terrible. But also it’s not calling them out. Like there’s a certain people with Facebook, you can’t talk about their Vegas, their gender, their race, their financial status, and like a couple other things.

Danielle: So you can’t obviously say like, do you have, are you a hundred K in debt? Are you a hundred K in this? Like, because Facebook things, that’s kind of weird for them. But like how did you know this? So they’re like, make them feel like they’re being watched. So I would say for a lot of health and fitness coaches or dietitians or whatnot, sticking to having your copy be around more the desire based and also the, the kind of stories that you had with it. For example, let’s say you help with binge eating instead of saying, do you struggle with binge eating? Say that, you know, when I was younger I shrugged with binge eating as well, and I had this, this and this, and I’m talking about this in the upcoming masterclass, how I was able to create this for myself and how this was able to work in this way.

Danielle: So you’re taking the, the pain off of the user and putting it more on yourself. Kind of like, you know when you’re creating content you need to have that reliability piece for a lot of you that’s going to be the biggest part of your copy cause one for, I think for a lot of people too, for health and fitness, it’s an emotional thing, especially if especially for like your clients. So when you’re able to talk about that and put it on yourself, it still allows them to connect. But even more so connect with you. And that’s what a lot of this comes down to is having them connect with you and your story and who you are to then want to learn more about like your [inaudible], your framework or like working with you, but you need for Facebook ads at least I find that it works best with talking about your own story with it and how that story led you to let’s say, creating this guide or going into more of like the desire based of this going through this. A lot of me to have this and I, you know, I want to show you how you could have that too, you know, with this free guide or whatnot.

Jess: I love that and it makes so much sense. Thinking about, yeah, Facebook once Facebook to be like a happy place. We don’t want to see a ton of things in our feed, like putting us down and like calling out these big issues. So that makes total sense. Now I’m like, Oh yeah, like that’s totally smart of them.

Danielle: It is. And it’s one of those things where you don’t realize it until obviously you’re creating the ads. But I find that for a lot of Facebook, obviously if my Facebook’s going through a lot of things the last couple of years when it comes to their own public, that I think they’re even more, they really want to cultivate this place for their users to have a good experience on there. So they want to make sure that whatever ads they’re showing are going to be one with the user connects with, but two is something that they’re actually going to get value out of. So it’s kind of like those two pronged areas.

Jess: Yeah. So I want to circle back to something you said earlier about not liking boosted posts, because I’ve heard a lot of people say this like don’t use them. So I’d love for you to talk a little bit about that.

Danielle: Yeah, so boosted posts for those who don’t know, it’s you’re going to see on either your Facebook or on Instagram, you’ll kind of see a post. Let’s say you, you’re on a business profile like you, you have a business profile Instagram, you just posted a new post and on the bottom right corner you’ll see that blue promote button that is going to lead you to boosting that post, which means you’re putting in dollars to have that shown to more people. The problem with that is because it’s a boosted post, which means you’re just putting money to it. You’re not really knowing who it’s going to or you know, if it’s actually working, is that it leads to people like elites to sure your posts getting seen by people, but you don’t know who they are. You can’t really find out. Like if they’re actually your ideal client, you don’t know if your money’s actually helping you or just being shown to like random people.

Danielle: And that’s a really hard to know if it’s gonna work well for you, especially if your post doesn’t have like any links anywhere or helping them create something new. Because I find that for boosted posts, people will do it for just like any post under the sun they have. And the problem with that is it’s not targeted, but even more so, which is just infuriating to me for Facebook, is that you’re putting let’s say $5 in and you don’t know where those $5 are going. You don’t know who it’s actually being targeted to, cause it’s not an app. It’s really just like putting money in that’s going to show it to more people versus an actual ad. You’re able to change. Who’s going to be able to see it is you’re able to change certain things about it. You really can’t do that much when it comes to your post. So to me it’s almost unrelated usually to, it’s kind like the lottery. You’re putting in money and you don’t really know if you’re gonna get that return back or even more so you’re not going to know if it’s actually gonna work. Well for you it’s kind of like a gamble, which is why I really don’t like when people use it only because when people say like, Oh, I’m wasting money on Facebook ads. No, you’re literally wasting money on boosted posts. Like that’s where your, at least your most of your money.

Jess: Yeah. Okay. Well that is good to know.

So everyone: stop boosting your posts.

Danielle: It’s okay. Like we, we’ve all been there, we’ve all tried it. It looks so easy. But Facebook makes it look easy to get, get them money, right?

Jess: It does. Yeah. I mean it’s just like, it’s like, it reminds me of the little check the items at the checkout counter that are like, you know, like the pack of gum and the chap stick. It’s like, Hey, any little extra dollar we can get from you, we’re going to do it. So it’s like they make it easy and they put it right in front of you so you can just boost it and think that you’re being effective. I agree 100% yeah. So now speaking of like targeting people and getting the ads in front of the right people, um, what do you typically do? And I again, I realize this probably varies from client to client, but do you typically target people on your client’s list? Do you do look alike audiences or how do you choose the audience for the ad?

Danielle: So it really depends on type of ad and also what we’re wanting it to become. So like let’s go with the app, cause a lot of this might be for your audience around like creating a list, building campaigns. So they’re trying to get people more on their list. So later on they can probably, you know, sell it to them or you know, get them on a call booked or whatnot. And for that, those kind of like two audiences, you need to target one of them being your warm, which is going to be obvious. People who are already in your sphere, that’s usually people who have liked your Facebook page or engaged with it, your Instagram profile, your website traffic and possibly your email list. If you have, you know, some type of email list. And then there’s cold. And that’s where I think a lot of people run into the problem with is because they’ll create a cold audience, which is people who don’t know who you are yet.

Danielle: Um, and the problem that can happen is that you’ll create these audiences that are a lot more general than you’re needing. For example, I heard it from live my friends months ago, she started, she created an ad for herself. She’s like, I don’t know why I’m not getting good results. And I asked her, okay, cool. You know what, who are you targeting? And she said, yeah, I’m targeting anyone who has an interest in entrepreneurship. And I was like, girl, that could be literally anyone. That is a lot of people. There’s a lot of people. And that’s why it’s different when it comes to your cold audience because you have to make sure that those who are you are targeting in there all are the most likely to be your ideal clients. That’s why you probably hear a lot of people talk about, um, interests targeting where you’re targeting is do the type of like software or persons or audience that you’re wanting to get more of.

Danielle: For example, like for me on Facebook ads, so I’d probably want to target people like any Porterfield or like Marie Forleo or even James Wedmore, those people who are more like the business sphere that probably have a lot of people in their audience who either want to learn about Facebook ads or who are my ideal client. So that’s kind of what I’ve noticed. A lot of times I can happen is when they’re creating ads, they either don’t have their, um, warm audience set up, right? Or they forget about like their email list. That’s a big one. I see. When you can get some good money for that, if you have a good size audience. Um, but also for cold, you know, you have to make sure that what you’re targeting there is obviously a good amount of people in there, but even more so it’s a majority of those people could be your ideal client or else are gonna be spending money on things that are super general or not in the right area.

Danielle: So that’s kind of how I usually have it for people to start with. Like your warm, which is what I mentioned before in your cold for more interest look likes are great. But the problem that can happen is the lookalikes nowadays for Facebook, they’re wanting you to have at least around 700 to close to a thousand and your audience to actually create a lookalike audience of. So for example, if you have an email list and you’re around two 50 like 250 people, that’s not bad. But it doesn’t give Facebook a lot to go off of. So that means you might be getting higher costs just because they don’t have enough data to like see what’s the commonalities here? How are we, can we find more people have them? They usually need around 500 700 to almost a thousand to really get some accurate data from. And also what I’ve found, especially for lookalikes is starting out, they’re going to be a little bit higher no matter what cause Facebook’s learning, like obviously Facebook, Facebook’s always learning with your ads, but they’re really learning with lookalikes because you’re just giving them a very small amount of data like their email and their name usually in your, in your email list. So they have to do a lot of the grunt work, which takes a little bit more time to see some results from them. Let’s say like an interest targeting for your cold or like your warm audience because they already have, they already have so much data on those people because they’re already on their platform versus like an email which takes them more time to learn about.

Jess: That is amazing. I you just like gave me so much information like I’m like, Oh, okay. So like I feel like I’ve been doing the audiences wrong. Okay.

Danielle: It was things I hear about. Usually it’s either like the audiences off the targeting might be off or like the the Eaton offer could be for those. I’ll actually go down on mini rabbit hole for a second for you guys. So I created a mini framework that I give a lot of my clients or students that really helps them to know kind of what could be working, what not can be working. And it’s called the goat framework, like an actual goat and it’s, it’s kind of separated between your graphic, your offer, your audience and your text and these four things you have to have in for your like for your actual ad to work really well. And what I find is sometimes people will have, like they’ll have a good offer but they won’t target the right audience or they’ll have a good graphic but not good text. And that’s why I have this kind of framework set out that people hopefully don’t forget about. All of these four areas need to work in unison so you can get good results.

Jess: I love it. And do you sometimes run multiple ads at the same time just to like test? I’ve heard of some people doing that so they can know like, Oh like this one is better. So like maybe you just changed the graphic between them or I don’t, I don’t know what people are doing when they run multiple ads at once. Like they don’t go into too specific detail but I assume it’s like we did different graphics but like the same copy or same graphic, different copy or something. Do you ever do that?

Danielle: Yes I do. But it really like the biggest thing depends on your client or for you like what your budget is because if you, like I talked about in the beginning of this episode, you have to spend about $5 a day per ad, which can start to kind of like compound up the more ads you do cause that’s what happens. I find for a lot of my clients is the one to do, you know, a couple of different ads or test a couple of different things. But I’m like, okay, just to make sure you’re okay with this budget at the end of the month it’s going to look like this because my biggest thing is worried about, okay, we’re going to put on like let’s try and test three different types of ads. And then you realize, Oh, it went from, I think it’s 300 a month to then almost like seven 50 to a thousand.

Danielle: Again, my math is not a hundred percent correct on here, but it’s around there. So that’s my biggest thing that I say before I start testing any ads. Like, okay, what are you realistically comfortable with? Because I want to make sure I never go over there like their ad limit. But also for people who are doing this on their own, it’s saying, okay, how can I create this for myself? How can I do this without, you know, losing all the money on that side. So that’s the first thing. Um, second thing is I would say depends on your experience with ads to like know which ones, which things to test. I find the two easiest things to start out with testing is either types of audiences and or your graphic. So like cause copy I think can take awhile for people. I have my own copywriter that I have do a lot of my clients.

Danielle: Um, ad copy cause she’s like, she’s so good and she’s worked with so many amazing people so I have her do that. But for a lot of people who are writing their own ad copy, it either takes them a long time cause it’s, you know, it can take a bit to create good ad copy. But also it’s just one of those things we have to make sure that the policy, it all fits in line with the policy. So I think it’s easier to create graphics first and test those with the same copy versus doing like three different types of copy and like three different types of images because you won’t know which one’s working. Cause they’re all different. Like, it’s kind of like when you go back to science class, when you were in, let’s say middle school, you test one variable at a time, especially if you don’t have the budget for like testing five, you know, three to five different variables.

Danielle: So usually you start with you like your different images and then also test those out on different audiences. Let’s say like one audience is um, your Amy Porterfield crowd. The other people are like your Gabby Bernstein crowd. And you can try out those different images on those two and see which one works from there. And then you can move on to copy and then you can, it’s kinda like that thing where you’re slowly just testing one variable at a time versus going in like buckwild and testing five different things and then rocking up, racking up the price point by the end of the month.

So how long do you usually test an ad? Like should we give it like five days or 10 days?

Danielle: Yeah. It really depends on, I find this, I love when I talk about this on interviews cause I find myself saying it depends so often because it does all depends. It really does. But the general, I would say the general policy around it is when your Facebook ad gets approved you need to give at least 72 hours to do its own thing before we look at the numbers. Because what happens is Facebook is doing kind of like a learning phase that pushing out to a lot of people in the first 72 hours to kind of see if it’s working for them. If it’s not working, like what are they going to do with it? So when people create ads, I think the biggest thing we can shoot them in the foot is they look at the ad within like the first 24 to 40 hours and think like Oh my God, either it’s so amazing or it’s like this is not going super well and you don’t have enough data to go off of.

Danielle: So I usually say 72 hours at least to see the like preliminary numbers of what’s working, what’s not working. And then from just more of like an experimentation phase, I would say usually about 10 days to 14 days would be probably like the minimum amount to do your ad because that way it gives you enough time to at least test two different types of like images and maybe two different types of audiences, um, without spending a lot of money on it. I think obviously the longer you have your ads up, the more Facebook will reward you for that. But if you’re wanting to just test it out, like test the waters and I would say 10 to 14 days.

Jess: Okay, perfect. Um, so my last question, probably most importantly, so we talked a lot about different types of ads and all the different components. So what is the quote unquote right type of ad to do to get clients?

Danielle: Yeah, so this is a big thing that I work with my clients with, especially for like the first thing we do and no matter what is, have a strategy call. So we can go over like making sure that we’re on the same page for everything and the number one question I usually ask my clients or people who are in my audience when we think about ads is what is the number one goal that you’d be like jumping up and down excited for if it were to be accomplished within the next 30 to 60 days. And thankfully for you, you’re already talking about clients for a lot of my, a lot of my audience they’ll go like everywhere, like I want to grow my audience but also I want to get class and also I want to get sales. I’m like that those are amazing. But let’s stick with one word a bit.

Danielle: Yes. So to go into getting more clients, I find one of the easiest ways to create like which type of ad works best for this and I teach this actually in my course is a conversion ad from going from a free, like a free guide or a free training of sorts to then the thank you page having either like the call scheduler or whatnot like that and having an email sequence that is really tailored around helping them warm up to the call because let’s be honest, it’s especially for cold audiences. If you give them a free guide and then thank you page is a call scheduler, they might not, you know, schedule a call on the like end of the day, but if you are someone who knows that, okay my people, you take a little bit of time to warm up cause they need to talk about like your story, learn about your testimonials.

Danielle: That’s where it’s really important to infuse that in your email and in your actual guide itself so that people are starting to be primed to work with you. What I find usually does not work well is when people create ads that go straight to their call schedule or page or two, they’re like checkout page because they haven’t given their audience, especially for cold or even sometimes warm enough time to be open. Even to the idea of clicking on that, like I find that a lot of people who are doing the call scheduler ones, the only type of reason you should be doing that to go straight to your call schedule or one is if they have already gone on that website like URL but they haven’t booked like that’s that one that makes the most sense because they have been there, they’re already interested. But if you give that link to someone who hasn’t even gone to that, you know they’re gonna just be like, hh you know that sounds interesting but not really wanting it right now.

Danielle: Versus if you create this narrative around it and the guy and in the emails they’ll really warm up to it cause they’ll see that as a solution. We’ll see that as, Oh, you know, let’s say for, for you, Jess, Jess is a spreadsheet. This person who’s helped out these types of people and overcome this and she just, she gets it. I want to click on her link, her calling now versus being like, Oh, this is the first time I’ve seen this ad. Instead of me go to the call booking link, I don’t really want to dive. Right.

Jess: Yeah. I mean, I don’t think I, if I clicked on a Facebook ad and it was like schedule a call, I’d be like, um, no. Exactly. I think even if I knew who it was, like if it was like James Wedmore, like, Hey, I’m doing free calls, like free coaching calls. I w I feel like I would still probably just be like, um, no, no. Like it just seems like really rushed. Like I don’t know you, you know? Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. It does.

Danielle: And we’re, we’re people who, let’s be honest, we’re a little skeptical when we go on Facebook or Instagram when it comes to like ads, even if they were like the best ad ever. So that’s why it’s a lot easier to go win with like, let me give you this free gift and then go into it in the emails. That’s why like in the course that I do, and even for some of my clients as well, I provide them with like the actual email sequence templates and landing page templates so they know what’s worked well for them. Because I find that people come to me and say, I had this ad and it’s not converting, and I’ll ask them, okay, cool. Do you have an email sequence that’s actually helping, you know, get people to there. Do you actually have good open rates or click through rates?

Danielle: They’re like, Oh, I haven’t checked. And I’m like, that’s the problem is that people look at the ad as the end all be all versus realizing ads are here to amplify and they can amplify the good or bad of your business. So that’s why it’s really important to have all of these pieces in order and having someone to help guide you through that is so important. But even more so, it’s knowing that, you know, with marketing, especially online, there’s different pieces that have to be played into. You can’t just for example, you can’t just have a post up and then every single time you put a post up, five different people will put a call with you that the amazing it might happen to you. Maybe you’re a unicorn and I’m so happy for you, that’s going to be on my podcast. Tell me, tell me how you do that. Yes, but for most people it takes time to warm them up, to nurture them, and that’s kind of what I find works the best for my clients who are wanting to get clients.

Jess: It’s amazing. I love it and I love that you said ads are here to help amplify. It’s not the end all be all. That’s super important. So I would love for you to share where we can connect with you online and possibly even work with you.

Danielle: Yeah, so everyone can find me at danielleklemm.com or on Instagram, @IAmDanielleKlemm. I currently have a free guide on the complete add breakdown. How one of the ads that I created for my client was able to bring in like 559 client leads and a 20% sales increase for her. And I kind of break down the whole like funnel of which that I made for her as well. So you can find that at [inaudible] dot com slash ad breakdown or literally probably on the homepage and um, something that will be coming up new in the next two weeks. For those who actually had that question of what type of ad works right for me, I’ll be creating a new free quiz on literally what type of ad will work best for my business. So stay tuned for that on my website. We’re on Instagram most likely. And um, if you want to chat more about maybe possibly working together, find me on Instagram or if you want to book a call and danielleklemm.com/call.

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